Last Ship Preview: Bravo!

[Buffalo Bill]

Posted: 9/30/14 at 12:53pm

Updated On: 10/7/14 at 12:53 PM

[newintown]

Posted: 9/30/14 at 12:56pm

What, you're too good to join the conversation that's already been going on?

[ljay889]

Posted: 9/30/14 at 12:57pm

[chicagotheater]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 1:39pm

I am with Buffalo Bill. the other link is too negative. I cannot believe how everyone is nit-picking every little thing. This is a Drama Musical, not a Patti Lupone Gypsy, or Showboat, or Mame.
People that are so negative is the reason shows do not run on Broadway. I also bet you that 90% of the people that pick so much paid 30.00 a ticket. So they go to too many shows and after a while become jaded. Like being an usher at a movie theater. After so many movies it is not as enjoyable as the first time.
What difference does it make how much money it cost to build the ship. It is the Idea they wanted to do it. It is a story, as far as I know not a true story.
The music fits the piece. So what if Sting throws in a hit song. That does not make it Mamma Mia.
I also am tired of people comparing it to Billy E. or other shows. Why can't it just be a show on its own.

If you walk out happy and had a great evening the show is a success.
thank you for letting me talk and now let the hate mail come.

[Pootie2]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 1:47pm

What is with the spam? It only makes the OP look like a shill and immediately casts doubt on all his positive commentary about the show, which BACKFIRES. How does someone not understand this?

Spam:
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?thread=1077024&dt=26

General thread:
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?thread=1076939

Look, if someone TRULY enjoyed a show enough to post about it, their opinion should be strong enough to stand on its own in another general topic thread; if you insist on breaking out because you're afraid of having the unpopular opinion, then you didn't enjoy the show enough to stand up for your own assessment.

Also, it's my understanding that the POINT of previews is to nitpick and get something ready for the real opening. Isn't it?

[newintown]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 1:51pm

"So they go to too many shows and after a while become jaded. Like being an usher at a movie theater."

That tears it; the anti-usher feeling on this site is simply getting ugly and out of hand.

[Theater'sBestFriend]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 3:00pm

"What difference does it make how much money it cost to build the ship"?

If you're a poor, unemployed shipbuilder, it makes a big difference. Building a ship you can't afford means not feeding your own children. Treating that as a detail would be insensitive about the reality of poverty.

[WhizzerMarvin]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 3:10pm

It makes a difference because the economic and social status of the community is integral to the plot. The fact that they have been out of work for a while (several months to a year?) and are barely scraping by sets the scene for the play and is the focus of much of the first act. The plausibility of them having enough money to finance the ship and the voyage after is not some minor plot- it's what the plot hinges on. It's important and must be clarified by the authors.

[WayTooBroadway]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 3:10pm

Except I think the OP is a bartender at Nederlander theatres, ie. Neil Simon...

[Theater'sBestFriend]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 4:31pm

"… the economic and social status of the community is integral to the plot."

Exactly. The luxury of worrying about whether one's work is fulfilling is a rich man's problem. Writing about the poor that way would be a rich man's fantasy.

[chicagotheater]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 5:02pm

The money came from the church

[chicagotheater]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 5:03pm

I was an usher myself so grow up.

[chicagotheater]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 5:04pm

Far from being afraid. Tired of the complaints from people on every show they see.

[Theater'sBestFriend]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 6:06pm

I wasn't trying to be negative at all. I was just responding to a question about why not having the money to build the ship would be important to the story.

Why does the church choose to give the money for that project? Why do the people accept it for that purpose?

[Wilmingtom]

Posted: 10/1/14 at 6:25pm

I'll discuss it on the original thread. Why exactly do we need this second one?

Updated On: 10/1/14 at 06:25 PM

[jennifer1128]

Posted: 10/4/14 at 12:31am

I agree regarding the other link being much to negative. I saw this show in Chicago and although I have never really been a fan of Sting I fell in love with the show and the music. I think its fantastic and find it strange how people are really over thinking the plot. Entertainment asks its audience to suspend belief and join their world for a few hours and be entertained. My favorite character in the show is Meg played by Rachel Tucker and I am disappointed to read that one of her songs, So to Speak has now been given to Gideon. Coming to see the show at the end of October and really looking forward to it. Also, I love the choreography, very understated yet practical.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 10/4/14 at 7:47pm

People that are so negative is the reason shows do not run on Broadway.

Well, that's definitely why Cats closed so quickly. And Motown shuttered in less than a week!

I also bet you that 90% of the people that pick so much paid 30.00 a ticket. So they go to too many shows and after a while become jaded.

Well, that is certainly a convenient excuse, but it discounts anyone who disliked THIS ONE SHOW regardless what the person you know nothing about has ever seen previously. Getting all bent out of shape because others don't like a show you enjoyed says less about them than it does about you.

This is a Drama Musical, not a Patti Lupone Gypsy, or Showboat, or Mame.

Gypsy and Showboats are drama musicals. The Last Ship is not set apart as being a new genre.

So basically, the new rule is, the site should be censored to reflect only positive opinions.

Entertainment asks its audience to suspend belief and join their world for a few hours and be entertained.

But if someone is not entertained, they should not be allowed to tel anyone about, especially WHY they felt they were entertained. Because that's unfair. The only honest opinions are favorable opinions. If you don't like something, you certainly should not say anything here. Or just lie. Something like that. That goes for ANY show ANYONE doesn't like!

Personally, I think perhaps the other thread(s) might seem so negative because there are fewer positive reviews from people than negative. It happens sometimes, Even to shows we may have enjoyed. At least I think it's happened before. At least once.

I also am tired of people comparing it to Billy E. or other shows. Why can't it just be a show on its own.

It can. Doesn't stop someone from being reminded of one show when watching another. Especially when the shows may have some elements in common. I certainly saw The Last Ship for what it was in Chicago and did not compare it to Billy Elliot at all when I originally posted my thoughts on it. I only responded to the comparison when someone else brought it up as a topic of conversation.

As long as we're all deciding what people are allowed to post on the boards, I've decided nobody is allowed to be so closed-minded as to whine and bitch about others posting negative opinions about a show they liked. Perhaps that's the real problem with the "negative" threads.

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 10/4/14 at 8:14pm

And also that people feel it's OK to start 3 threads about an opinion that's already been stated multiple times when there already is a thread to post in.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 10/5/14 at 11:28am

This thread is too positive. People shouldn't post their thoughts about a musical they've seen on this board.

[Buffalo Bill]

Posted: 10/5/14 at 4:15pm

Updated On: 10/7/14 at 04:15 PM

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 10/5/14 at 4:34pm

[dreaming]

Posted: 10/5/14 at 4:37pm

Thanks, Clyde! I was hoping a .gif would show up to express my utter disgust. You have indeed not let me down!!! (And I am serious.)

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 10/5/14 at 4:43pm

You're welcome, dreaming. I hope it sums up the feelings of everyone here.

[Hackasaurus_Rex]

Posted: 10/5/14 at 5:47pm

Disgust at Buffalo Bill? Really? Your feelings are that intense? That's unfortunate. I find him amazing. His unweavering love for this show, combined with his refusal to even acknowledge that he is pissing all these people off makes me laugh. I wish deep in my heart he's actually a really odd and funny dude, pulling a big ol' Andy Kaufman-esque prank on the boards. That would make me want to make "Buffalo Bill" T-Shirts.

[Anthony Mouse2]

Posted: 10/5/14 at 6:11pm

I love Buffalo Bill so much that I was inspired to login and post for the first time in a couple years. I couldn't remember my login info so just re-registered to say BUFFALO BILL FOR PRESIDENT. Maybe he is a shill, maybe he actually loves the show, maybe he is both. Whomever he is, He definitely has bunched up a lot of panties on here and I love him for that.